John Tesh: Out of the Wheelhouse

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Integrating classical, hip-hop and Gospel in music and dance, John Tesh leads kids in a life-affirming renaissance.

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With John Tesh at the helm, "Alive music and dance" is a multi-media program on DVD, CD, PBS and afternoon television. "Alive" employs creative lighting, staging and camera shoots to feature kids and young adults performing music and dance in a feast for the eyes, ears, heart and soul. The music and dance blends classical, hip-hop, Gospel, Latin and jazz into one culture for all ages. An orchestra, a choir and a band carry us across each genre effortlessly with their exquisite sounds.

 

John Tesh called me this week to discuss the creation of and intent behind "Alive." After thanking John for speaking with me I told him I'd learned from the PR materials and the expansive website JohnTesh.com  http://teshmedia.com/artist/artistIndex.html  that inspiration for Alive came from a visit to his 12 year old daughter's ballet class.

 

John: Yeah, and as a dad, and now she's a teenager, your job is to drop them off and run. And, a couple of days I would hang out in the back and watch. It wasn't that I was watching my daughter really. It was more like just seeing something completely different than what a lot of kids are doing and watching these teachers who teach a couple hundred kids a day. The teachers give their lives to this thing where they're not making a fortune but they realize that these kids really don't have PE in the school. A lot of the kids' friends hang out in the mall or are wrapped around a my space account gossiping all day. And the teachers' job is to encourage these kids to find that passion in their lives. So just watching that and realizing that they're probably saving my kids life and the lives of a bunch of other kids, I thought, I'd love to write music for that and that would be a great encouraging program.

 

And, looking for the name, it came from centuries ago from St.Iraneus, who once said, 'The joy of God is man (and, of course, man and woman) is man fully alive.'

 

Diana: Is this when you met Breeze?

 

John: Yeah. Breeze's mom is Jonette Sweiger, who's the ballet teacher. The studio is where Breeze teaches hip-hop. I love finding talent that no one else might find, and so just watching him and saying why don't you come and dance with our band. That's really how he ended up joining the band. Often you'll get someone up on the stage and they get stage fright and can't handle it, but this guy just unloaded and has become a huge force in our band.

Our audiences are very diverse. We have 15 year olds and we have 90 year olds. You know 90 year olds up on their feet applauding a hip hop dance is pretty cool.

 

Diana: I have to say that I find the program made me feel ageless. I forgot about what decade I'm physically in.  

 

John: If you were to go and Google right now and just search dance quotes, there's so many. Albert Einstein has a quote about dance. Everybody does. It’s all connected to coming alive, being alive and being passionate about life. There's all the metaphors connected to dance. Like [Lee Ann] Womack's song, {url http://www.videocodezone.com/videos/l/lee_ann_womack/i_hope_you_dance.html}'I  hope you dance,'{/url} which is really about I hope you live your life to the fullest.

 

Diana: As a former amateur jazz dancer, I noticed the hip-hop and even some break dancing, as well as ballet were done with proper posture, form and movement so that it was safe. [I worry about the large number of injuries to those who don't know the foundations of movement.]

 

John: Also understand that those girls that you're watching are 13, 14 and 15. And I'm not sure how far you got into the DVD but there's a girl named Julia who does probably more of what you're used to in a jazz style [mixing ballet, jazz, hip-hop and modern dance]. We auditioned about 1500 girls out in Las Vegas. There was a big event there and Julia popped out of that crowd because she could adlib. She didn't need choreography. Every time we did that dance called 'Freedom' it was different.

 

She's, right now, a freshman at Juilliard. So, it's exciting to see. You know, so many of the people who go to Juilliard, you think, oh, a ballerina. 'I do this, I do that, and I'm classically trained.' Which is great, of course, but as a classical pianist from years ago, my heroes are people who can adlib, who can improvise. So I loved watching her do that.

 

Diana: Also in the DVD extras, Stan Sinclair says he sees Alive as a culmination of your passion. Have you worked with Stan for a long time?

 

John: You know I haven't, but Stan knows sort of the passionate me. When I met him he was a worship leader in a church, actually in the church where we shot the special. He'd helped me with the Red Rocks project 6 years ago, and he's a guy who, as an accountability partner, he knows me very well and knows my work. He's also seen me from afar, so he knows that in the early years I was writing music for bike races, and as a little kid I was making movies from 8 millimeter films of my family and friends on Long Island.

 

I've always been fascinated by the media. And it's interesting how that's come full circle now for the 25 year old who works here. We hire kids who can edit a final cut. They can write a song. They can mix a song. They can shoot a camera. They can write copy. They can be on the radio. That's really what kids are like today. They have so much in technology available to them to express themselves. It's almost like a Renaissance movement, if you know what I mean.

 

Diana: There are some comments I want to make and have you respond to them.  

 

John: Sure.

 

Diana: One of the elements of the show that struck me was that it was rousing without vulgarity in clothing or in dance and movement.  

 

John: First of all, it's a great complement; and secondly, when you have a 13 year old in your house, you're hypersensitive to what goes into their eyes and ears. There's a great proverb, Proverbs [4:23 New International Version], which says, 'Above all else, guard your heart for it is the wellspring of life.' You can let that roll off your tongue, or you can think about that. What does it mean? That means there's a lot of stuff out there that if you just get lazy and you let your kid wear a bare midriff or hotpants, or you let them watch Access Hollywood or Extra or Entertainment Tonight every single night, or read People Magazine or any of the teen magazines, they will eventually become what they behold. And, so, we're not prudes but we just don't think it's appropriate, it doesn't serve any purpose to be titillating in anything we do.

 

Diana: The only explosions I witnessed were of energy and our senses. Nothing is blown up, nothing is broken. No one is being mutilated or dismembered.  

 

John: Yeah. I like action films but they do wear you out a little bit. I think if you saw some of my early work on the Tour de France you'd watch that and nod. The explosions are orchestral explosions. Like the very beginning of the show where it goes baroom, and then in slow motion and the dancers pretend to be in slow motion. And there's another big baroom and they do that thing again.

 

I'm a bombastic person. There are people who say, 'Oh my gosh, listen to his music. It's so bombastic.' And other people will say, 'It's so bombastic; I love it.'

 

I love putting together dramatic pieces, and you can do that with orchestra and with choir. You can move people to tears with these sounds and you don't need a car chase. You don't need sexual innuendo on stage, and we were really out to prove that can be done.

 

Also, it's about the look on a kid's face who is dancing to music that was written for them, and these are kids who are not professional, they've never danced on stage like this before. It is that innocence that I saw the first time I saw my daughter in a dance recital. It's what I felt the first time I played a piano recital at 7 years old. That's what we wanted to put on the screen. And from the comments you've made it looks like it connected with you.

 

Diana: The only war I saw was between two dancers, and no one was hurt or killed. Were you making a comment with that?  

 

John: Oh yeah! That song was originally called 'Dance War' and we thought that might be a little heavy-handed so we called it 'Two Worlds.'

 

The idea behind having a ballet dancer and a hip-hop dancer was to show the mutual respect that these kids from completely different worlds have for each other. And to show that you don't have to use knives and you don't have to use curse words. You can use your talent to settle a disagreement. The debate in this case was who's going to own the dance floor in the metaphorical dance studio. So that particular piece was so much fun to write music for because I'm pop-quoting old classical pieces I used to play, and then sort of doing my particular take on what hip-hop would sound like. Then, in the end we throw in a little humor where they reverse roles and she dances hip-hop and he dances ballet.

 

There's another song in there called 'Show Down' which is when two ostensibly rival dance gangs get on stage and try to decide who's best. That actually happens in the real world. [It's] called 'battling' where kids go to clubs and instead of screaming, yelling and fighting, they settle which crew is the best by doing a dance-off.

Diana: I noticed that there are featured musicians and dancers, and yet, clearly, this is an ensemble of cast, musicians, stage, and lighting crew – even Connie Selleca [John's wife] is listed in the credits as co-producer and lighting consultant. The feeling I get is of a large community. It seems like the whole experience is very tight in some ways – in the joining, camaraderie and shared respect.

 

John: For sure. It started in a little dance studio. My daughter's dance teachers are choreographing and dancing in it. My wife is always my wingman. She's always on my shoulder looking at how this thing looks. Musicians I've worked with for 20 years are a part of it. Basically, I said 'Listen, I have this crazy idea and come along with me and help me make this thing happen.'

 

And the hardest thing about this, especially for the kids, was after rehearsing for months, we played for 2 nights. You know, these kids gotta go back to school and people – some dancers and choir members – came from all over the country to be a part of this. All they wanted to do was to have a tour bus pull up in the back of the venue and just jump in there and stay on tour for the rest of their lives. I mean, I probably ruined these kids forever, because all they can think about is going out on tour, and we'll do some of that with them.

 

I think you saw that on stage. There'll be a 9 year old who will watch the special and who will say, "Oh, my gosh, I wanna do that!"

 

Diana thinking, "How about a 60 year old who wants to do that?"

 

John: I will let you in on a secret. This show is doing very well, like on Christian outlets and some other afternoon shows. It did not do work on PBS. They did not embrace the show. I've been with PBS for 6 specials, but it is too young for them. They want Celtic Woman, which is a great show. They want, really, sort of safe, pretty, peaceful, and tranquil stuff. This was way out of their wheelhouse.

 

There were certain markets where it worked, but in most markets it did not work like my first Red Rocks [the PBS show from the same venue 6 years ago]. However, on the Christian affiliates it's like their number one program. I think the reason is there's Gospel music in there. I think, too, that when we air in the afternoon on some of these affiliates there are more kids watching.

 

Diana: That's really stunning. Thank you for sharing that with me.

 

John: It's basically a failure [John laughs], but the good news is that it's working elsewhere. And, the other thing that PBS wanted me to do was make it a piano piece. They wanted me to put the piano out in the middle of the stage and it's a John Tesh show.

 

If you notice, I'm over on the side. The idea is … You know what, it's so easy for me to go and stand and sing, and get an orchestra together and a choir or whatever and be in the middle of the stage and do the John Tesh live thing. And we could sell a zillion records like we usually do with these specials. How… why am I getting in the way? I wrote all the music, produced the thing, let's put the piano over on the side and feature the kids.

 

So, whatever you can do personally to encourage people to watch this thing would be great because it has been a bit of a struggle in certain areas.

 

Diana: Ahh, I'm sorry to hear that and I share the enthusiasm and what I consider a great message of inspiration and hope.

 

John: Well, that's what happens, too, especially in my life, whenever you step out of other people's comfort zone for you. They go, 'Well, wait a second, we don't want you to do that.'

 

You know what I mean? Like when I was on Entertainment Tonight and I left there to do full-time music. 'Whoa, whoa, whoa! Get back over there and read the celebrity birthdays.' So I like the challenge and this has definitely been that.

 

Diana: You made reference earlier and on the DVD extras to this representing a movement. I think you said, 'Can you see it? Can you feel it?'

 

John: Right. I think kids today, there's a group of kids that are left alone by their parents and end up in a mall or being wrapped around a play station or being other places where they shouldn't be. And then there are other kids who are saying, 'You know what, I am passionate about my life. I don't want what my parents are telling me to do. I wanta go where my heart is.'

 

I wanted my daughter to be a piano player, of course, because I'm a piano player. Fortunately, she has parents who had parents who tried to do that to them. My wife said,  'No you need to go study in college.' My daughter, next fall, enters the performing arts school here in LA because she wants to dance.

 

It's a new breed of kid who is saying, 'I'm passionate about something. Help me with that.' And they're saying, 'I don't wanta be online all the time. I don't wanna be text messaging 24/7. I don't wanna date when I'm 13 years old. I really want to do something with my life.'

 

I think that's what the movement is. And, I think that if you get the kids, you get the parents inspired, maybe, to do that in their life.

 

You know, maybe a 55 year old guy like me says, 'Wait a second. I've got my 401k. I got this. I got that. Maybe I should go to Africa and work for a year. Maybe I should follow my dream of being a carpenter. That's the whole idea behind the special. It's encouraging people to come alive.

 

I think it really is a movement with kids saying enough of this madness. I want to go back to basics and go where my heart is. There's a great quote by an evangelist, his name is Howard Thurman. The quote is (and I live by this quote every day), 'Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what it is that makes you come alive. And then go to that. Because what the world needs is men and women who are fully alive.'

 

What I did was let my parents talk me into what their world wanted for me, which was to go to school, study chemistry and physics. But in my heart, I wanted to be a performer, and eventually [my muse] tracked me down and I quit school and became that.

 

Diana: Oh, that's wonderful. Thanks for sharing all of this with me.

 

To me, 'Alive' tells an unending story of successful creative integration of ages, cultures, ethnicities and mentalities. I think it's a wonderful program.

 

John: Well, thank you, and thank you for doing this interview. It gives me an opportunity to share about it, and, as you can tell, I'm passionate about it.

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Diana deRegnier writes the column SpiritLinks from the San Francisco Bay Area. Her articles appear in numerous Internet and print publications across America and around the world. © Copyright 2008 by Diana deRegnier.